Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Dear Tom,
Please accept my sincere apologies for upcoming questions, since I´m quite new to DCC-GARCH model and I just started using Rats.
I am trying to find if two stock market indices are integrated with each other, and apparently one step DCC procedure (general) can be used for this.
When using the wizard, dependent variables are log returns of these two separated stock markets. But should I add something on "mean model variables" besides "constant" ? And should I add also something in "variance shift variables" ?
I got this task from my professor, but he´s now off-duty, so I have been learning by doing, reading this page, manual and etc. He said that the outcome should be something like in attachment.
Thanks for any comment!
Larry
Please accept my sincere apologies for upcoming questions, since I´m quite new to DCC-GARCH model and I just started using Rats.
I am trying to find if two stock market indices are integrated with each other, and apparently one step DCC procedure (general) can be used for this.
When using the wizard, dependent variables are log returns of these two separated stock markets. But should I add something on "mean model variables" besides "constant" ? And should I add also something in "variance shift variables" ?
I got this task from my professor, but he´s now off-duty, so I have been learning by doing, reading this page, manual and etc. He said that the outcome should be something like in attachment.
Thanks for any comment!
Larry
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Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Just to understand, was the attachment done with a different data set?
What you're looking at would have been done with mean model variables russia{1} eurozone{1} in addition to CONSTANT. It's model type DCC, with the "Asymmetric Effects" checkbox clicked on. There are no variance shifts.
Just a suggestion that you make sure to scale up the returns by 100, as is done in the GARCHMV.RPF example:
set xjpn = 100.0*log(usxjpn/usxjpn{1})
set xfra = 100.0*log(usxfra/usxfra{1})
set xsui = 100.0*log(usxsui/usxsui{1})
That gives better scale to the C coefficients (without the scaling, they're so small the standard errors don't even show as non-zero).
What you're looking at would have been done with mean model variables russia{1} eurozone{1} in addition to CONSTANT. It's model type DCC, with the "Asymmetric Effects" checkbox clicked on. There are no variance shifts.
Just a suggestion that you make sure to scale up the returns by 100, as is done in the GARCHMV.RPF example:
set xjpn = 100.0*log(usxjpn/usxjpn{1})
set xfra = 100.0*log(usxfra/usxfra{1})
set xsui = 100.0*log(usxsui/usxsui{1})
That gives better scale to the C coefficients (without the scaling, they're so small the standard errors don't even show as non-zero).
Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Thank you Tom for a prompt answer!
The attachment in my previous comment was done with a different data set (my observable country pairs are Russia & Ukraine, Russia & Kazakhstan, Russia & Georgia and Russia & Kyrgyzstan). So the attachment supposed to show how the outcome should look like as an example.
But speaking about the results, as I add more mean model variables in addition to CONSTANT, I get the following result with every country pair:
MV-GARCH, DCC - Estimation by BFGS
NO CONVERGENCE IN 8 ITERATIONS
LAST CRITERION WAS 0.0000000
ESTIMATION POSSIBLY HAS STALLED OR MACHINE ROUNDOFF IS MAKING FURTHER PROGRESS DIFFICULT
TRY HIGHER SUBITERATIONS LIMIT, TIGHTER CVCRIT, DIFFERENT SETTING FOR EXACTLINE OR ALPHA ON NLPAR
RESTARTING ESTIMATION FROM LAST ESTIMATES OR DIFFERENT INITIAL GUESSES MIGHT ALSO WORK
Daily(5) Data From 2007:03:15 To 2015:04:28
Usable Observations 2119
Log Likelihood NA
All returns are scaled by 100, as it´s done in example you mentioned. Also when using just basic code for DCC (GARCH(P=1,Q=1,MV=DCC) / COUNTRY1 COUNTRY2, the results are the same (no convergence), besides one country pair. What I´m doing wrong and what can be done to get converged results ?
Thanks again for your patience for answering my questions!
Here´s output and input files, if they help to understand. With CC- and BEKK-Garch everything works fine.
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The attachment in my previous comment was done with a different data set (my observable country pairs are Russia & Ukraine, Russia & Kazakhstan, Russia & Georgia and Russia & Kyrgyzstan). So the attachment supposed to show how the outcome should look like as an example.
But speaking about the results, as I add more mean model variables in addition to CONSTANT, I get the following result with every country pair:
MV-GARCH, DCC - Estimation by BFGS
NO CONVERGENCE IN 8 ITERATIONS
LAST CRITERION WAS 0.0000000
ESTIMATION POSSIBLY HAS STALLED OR MACHINE ROUNDOFF IS MAKING FURTHER PROGRESS DIFFICULT
TRY HIGHER SUBITERATIONS LIMIT, TIGHTER CVCRIT, DIFFERENT SETTING FOR EXACTLINE OR ALPHA ON NLPAR
RESTARTING ESTIMATION FROM LAST ESTIMATES OR DIFFERENT INITIAL GUESSES MIGHT ALSO WORK
Daily(5) Data From 2007:03:15 To 2015:04:28
Usable Observations 2119
Log Likelihood NA
All returns are scaled by 100, as it´s done in example you mentioned. Also when using just basic code for DCC (GARCH(P=1,Q=1,MV=DCC) / COUNTRY1 COUNTRY2, the results are the same (no convergence), besides one country pair. What I´m doing wrong and what can be done to get converged results ?
Thanks again for your patience for answering my questions!
Here´s output and input files, if they help to understand. With CC- and BEKK-Garch everything works fine.
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Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Are you sure you're running that on returns? The mean model results are showing near unit root behavior, which you shouldn't have with returns.
Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
I´m running it on returns and unit root test have been done. I use MSCI price indices which are transformed to returns.
As I tried few times more, I got results from GARCH(P=1,Q=1,MV=DCC) / COUNTRY1 COUNTRY2 for most of the country pairs, but I need also mean spillover, which I do not get from above mentioned code, I suppose, or am I wrong?
As I tried few times more, I got results from GARCH(P=1,Q=1,MV=DCC) / COUNTRY1 COUNTRY2 for most of the country pairs, but I need also mean spillover, which I do not get from above mentioned code, I suppose, or am I wrong?
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Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Your problem here is that you're running the returns on the current values (that is, on themselves) rather than their lags.
GARCH(P=1,Q=1,MV=DCC,REGRESSORS) / LRUS LUKR
# Constant LRUS LUKR
The regressors should be constant lrus{1} lukr{1}
The output that you're showing has spillovers in the variance equations. If you're looking for spillovers in the means, then you have to fix the regressor list as described above.
GARCH(P=1,Q=1,MV=DCC,REGRESSORS) / LRUS LUKR
# Constant LRUS LUKR
The regressors should be constant lrus{1} lukr{1}
The output that you're showing has spillovers in the variance equations. If you're looking for spillovers in the means, then you have to fix the regressor list as described above.
Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Thank you Tom for a great support and help!
I got the results for three country pairs. For Kyrgyzstan, I think there´s not much to do, since their price index is what it is:
I got the results for three country pairs. For Kyrgyzstan, I think there´s not much to do, since their price index is what it is:
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Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
It looks like about half the days are true zeros. Is that correct?
Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Yes, that´s correct. Seems that there´s nothing happening for many days. Also tried for shorter period, but still does not work.
Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
There is *some* literature on volatility for thinly traded markets. However, it will be quite a bit more demanding than fitting well-known GARCH models. Have you thought about switching to weekly returns?
Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Thank you Tom for your help! Also the last data set worked well after your suggestion.
But I have still few questions. They are from slightly different area ( I did not wan´t to make new topic).
When calculating Covariance∖Correlation matrix, for example between Russia (lrus) and Ukraine (lukr), I got the following:
Covariance∖Correlation Matrix
LRUS LUKR
LRUS 5.379964 0.34715
LUKR 1.798606 4.98946
Should it be close to one between LRUS & LRUS etc. ?
The second question is about L-B Q values; how I can calculate them?
Here´s again example of the desired outcome:
But I have still few questions. They are from slightly different area ( I did not wan´t to make new topic).
When calculating Covariance∖Correlation matrix, for example between Russia (lrus) and Ukraine (lukr), I got the following:
Covariance∖Correlation Matrix
LRUS LUKR
LRUS 5.379964 0.34715
LUKR 1.798606 4.98946
Should it be close to one between LRUS & LRUS etc. ?
The second question is about L-B Q values; how I can calculate them?
Here´s again example of the desired outcome:
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Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
It is what it is. That's not really something that anyone not researching those particular markets could tell you.juustone wrote:Thank you Tom for your help! Also the last data set worked well after your suggestion.
But I have still few questions. They are from slightly different area ( I did not wan´t to make new topic).
When calculating Covariance∖Correlation matrix, for example between Russia (lrus) and Ukraine (lukr), I got the following:
Covariance∖Correlation Matrix
LRUS LUKR
LRUS 5.379964 0.34715
LUKR 1.798606 4.98946
Should it be close to one between LRUS & LRUS etc. ?
Unfortunately, it's hard to tell what's being done from just the output. I'm guessing that output is generated using the univariate standardized residuals. From the GARCHMV.RPF example, the calculates (three sets) of residuals for a different model. It's the RSERIES and MVHSERIES options that are needed.juustone wrote: The second question is about L-B Q values; how I can calculate them?
Here´s again example of the desired outcome:
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* Diagnostics on (univariate) standardized residuals
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garch(model=var1,mv=bekk,asymmetric,p=1,q=1,distrib=t,$
pmethod=simplex,piters=10,iters=500,$
rseries=rs,mvhseries=hhs,stdresids=zu,derives=dd)
set z1 = rs(1)/sqrt(hhs(1,1))
set z2 = rs(2)/sqrt(hhs(2,2))
set z3 = rs(3)/sqrt(hhs(3,3))
VCV
# z1 z2
The others are probably done with @REGCORRS procedures applied to z1 and its square, z2 and its square. However, the @BDINDTESTS procedures in GARCHMV.RPF do those two tests and more, and label them better.
Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Thanks for your answer!
Somehow I can´t make the Q-test. The thing is that I´m trying to make it to pairwise series. For single serie, it worked.
Is it possible to use wizard on this ?
Somehow I can´t make the Q-test. The thing is that I´m trying to make it to pairwise series. For single serie, it worked.
Is it possible to use wizard on this ?
Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
You want to use @MVQSTAT for a joint test, but that needs to be applied to a jointly standardized set of residuals. The diagnostics for multivariate GARCH models are described in Section 9.4.6 of the User's Guide. This is one of the multivariate diagnostics.
Re: Beginner problems in DCC-GARCH
Good Day Tom,
I am indeed a beginner in DCC-GARCH and need encougement. I modelled a Univariate AR(1) mean models for each series, DCC model for the variance with the following codes and results.
\***** The problem is that I am not sure of the interpretation of the above output, then I do not have the code for Ljungbox test and Bollerslev test, conditional Correlation coefficients. Is there any diagnostic tests for the model above? please help. Sorry for asking too muck I seem not to find answers, been searching for long. Thank you in advance.
I am indeed a beginner in DCC-GARCH and need encougement. I modelled a Univariate AR(1) mean models for each series, DCC model for the variance with the following codes and results.
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equation(constant) spq dstpr 1
equation(constant) bozq dboz 1
equation(constant) tbq tb1 1
group ar1 spq tbq bozq
garch(p=1,q=1,model=ar1,mv=dcc,pmethod=simplex,piter=10,iter=200)
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MV-GARCH, DCC - Estimation by BFGS
Convergence in 80 Iterations. Final criterion was 0.0000000 <= 0.0000100
Monthly Data From 2001:05 To 2014:12
Usable Observations 164
Log Likelihood -80.9807
Variable Coeff Std Error T-Stat Signif
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1. Constant 0.010569822 0.002321832 4.55236 0.00000530
2. DSTPR{1} 0.155954869 0.090163092 1.72970 0.08368435
3. Constant 0.439474660 0.058276811 7.54116 0.00000000
4. TB1{1} 0.002277418 0.019985327 0.11395 0.90927387
5. Constant 0.440757291 0.057072721 7.72273 0.00000000
6. DBOZ{1} 0.001996035 0.018854322 0.10587 0.91568855
7. C(1) -0.000022434 0.000015127 -1.48307 0.13805620
8. C(2) 2.529424553 0.347706134 7.27460 0.00000000
9. C(3) 2.561119132 0.345578953 7.41110 0.00000000
10. A(1) 0.411814867 0.143348995 2.87281 0.00406835
11. A(2) 0.377140497 0.135923249 2.77466 0.00552598
12. A(3) 0.375281034 0.135099724 2.77781 0.00547270
13. B(1) 0.761236715 0.062887849 12.10467 0.00000000
14. B(2) 0.004423171 0.019107584 0.23149 0.81693594
15. B(3) 0.004072750 0.019120777 0.21300 0.83132595
16. DCC(1) 0.393664956 0.045142969 8.72040 0.00000000
17. DCC(2) 0.592641482 0.045281987 13.08780 0.00000000